Top Takeaways From Seventh Hearing

Key Moments from Cassidy Hutchinson’s Testimony

Today’s listening to from the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot is the primary since late June.

The final listening to on June 28 featured testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, the aide to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.

These are the important thing moments from her testimony:

Hutchinson Was ‘Scared’ About Jan. 6 Plans

Hutchinson stated she was “scared” concerning the White House’s plans for Jan. 6.

After a gathering on Jan. 2 between Mark Meadows and Rudy Giuliani, Giuliani informed Hutchinson that the sixth was “going to be a great day,” she testified.

“We’re going to the Capitol, it’s going to be great,” Giuliani informed her, including that then-President Donald Trump was going to be there with members of Congress and goes to “look powerful.”

Meadows later informed her that “things might get real, real bad on January 6.”

“That evening was the first moment that I remember feeling scared and nervous for what could happen on January 6,” she informed the Committee.

Trump Was Aware Attendees Had Weapons

Hutchinson stated the White House was conscious that members of the right-wing extremists teams the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers would attend Trump’s rally on Jan. 6.

“I remember hearing the word Oath Keeper and Proud Boys closer to the planning of the January 6 rally when [Rudy] Giuliani would be around,” Hutchinson stated.

Metro and Capitol Police reported that individuals on the rally had a slew of weapons, together with firearms. She stated Meadows and Trump weren’t involved that these individuals had been coming by way of magnetometers with weapons.

Hutchinson stated she overheard the President asking to “let my people in” as they “march to the Capitol after the rally is over.” Trump needed attendees contained in the official rally area and inspired them to stroll to the Capitol.

He additionally needed secret service to take away the magnetometers.

Hutchinson testified that Trump stated, “I don’t f’in care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me. Take the f’ing mags away… then they can march to the Capitol.”

Trump Involved in Physical Altercation in Limo

Former President Donald Trump was concerned in a bodily altercation within the Presidential limo after he discovered he wouldn’t be taken to the Capitol Building on January 6, Hutchinson testified.

Trump was “irate” to be taught he was being taken to the White House as an alternative of the Capitol, after he gave his speech.

Tony Ornato, the assistant director of the U.S. Secret Service Office of Training, informed Hutchinson that Trump “said something to the effect of, ‘I’m the effing President. Take me up to the Capitol now,'”

When Trump’s safety element refused, Trump allegedly “reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel,” Hutchinson stated.

Trump then “used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby Engel,” the pinnacle of Trump safety element.

White House Lawyer Warned Against Trump Capitol Visit

Former White House Counsel warned Trump concerning the authorized penalties of going to the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

“Mr. Cipollone said something to the effect of, ‘please make sure we don’t go up to the Capitol. We’re going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that visit happen’,” she stated.

Hutchinson additionally stated Cipollone was involved {that a} go to to the Capitol on that day from Trump “would look like we were obstructing justice or obstructing the Electoral College count” and “inciting or encouraging a riot.”

Cipollone urged Meadows to take motion to cease individuals from storming the Capitol.

Hutchinson stated Cipollone informed Meadows that if he didn’t do something, individuals had been going to die and “blood is going to be on your hands.”

When Cipollone stated rioter had been chanting “hang Mike Pence,” Meadows stated that Trump believed Pence “deserved it” and that the rioters weren’t doing something flawed.

“As an American, I was disgusted,” Hutchinson stated about that second. “It was unpatriotic. It was un-American. We were watching the Capitol Building get defaced over a lie.”

Trump Allies Asked for Pardons

Rudy Giuliani and Mark Meadows each expressed curiosity in receiving Presidential pardons associated to the occasions that unfolded on January 6, 2021, Cassidy Hutchinson testified Tuesday.

Hutchinson stated Trump had needed to incorporate language throughout the assertion about probably granting Presidential pardons to the rioters.

“I understand that Mr. Meadows was encouraging that language, as well,” she stated.

When requested by Committee Co-Chair Liz Cheney, Hutchinson stated that each Giuliani and Meadows each sought pardons from Trump.

Trump Cabinet Discussed twenty fifth Amendment

Top officers within the Trump administration had conversations about invoking the twenty fifth Amendment following the occasions of Jan. 6, Hutchinson testified.

After the Jan. 6 riot on the U.S. Capitol, there have been discussions amongst Trump’s Cabinet about “stripping the full power of the Presidency from Donald Trump,” Committee Vice Chair Liz Cheney stated.

Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo reached out to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to make him conscious of conversations he was listening to concerning the twenty fifth Amendment.

Pompeo informed Meadows that, “if conversations progress, you should be ready to take action on this,” including that he was “concerned” for him and his place, Hutchinson stated.

Some Witnesses Report Intimidation

During her closing assertion, Cheney stated the Committee acquired experiences of witness tampering from individuals near Trump.

One witness, whom Cheney didn’t determine, stated they had been informed, “as long as I continue to be a team player, they know that I’m on the team, I’m doing the right thing, I’m protecting who I need to protect, you know, I’m going to stay in good graces in Trump World.”

That witness added the one that had spoken with them “reminded me a couple of times that Trump does read transcripts and just to keep that in mind as I proceeded through my depositions and interviews with the committee.”

Another witness informed the committee that they had acquired a cellphone name forward of their testimony, throughout which the individual on the opposite finish of the road stated, “[A person] let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. He wants me to let you know that he’s thinking about you. He knows you’re loyal, and you’re going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition.”

“I think most Americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully presents very serious concerns,” Cheney stated.

Cassidy Hutchinson Testimony

Cassidy Hutchinson, a prime former aide to Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, testifies throughout the sixth listening to held by the Select Committee to Investigate the January sixth Attack on the U.S. Capitol on June 28, 2022 within the Cannon House Office Building in Washington, DC.
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